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Betty Bethards: Well, I actually had two of them. With the first one, I’d come home from playing bridge, went to bed about midnight, and woke up an hour later and I was floating above my body. It was a dark room, but I could see my body down below me. Of course, it’s very terrifying. I reached down and grabbed me to pull me back in. And a voice said to me, "You’re going to be very sick with pneumonia; get to the doctor." So I woke my husband up and I said, "I was floating above my body." He has this heady degree in math and he said "That’s alright honey, you’ll be fine in the morning." So the next morning I said, "I want to go to the doctor, I have pneumonia." He said, "You don’t look sick." I said, "I’m not, but I have pneumonia."
So I went to the doctor and the doctor said "Betty, you don’t even have a fever, there’s no way that you have pneumonia." He wouldn’t even give me an antibiotic. So I went to his partner and I said, "Look, I’ve got pneumonia and I want a chest x-ray." He said, "you don’t have pneumonia lady", but he said it’s important to acknowledge dreams. So he took two chest x-rays and sure enough, just starting up and down the left lung, was pneumonia. He couldn’t believe it, but he said, "It’s viral, go home, stay in bed and take aspirin." He wouldn’t give me an antibiotic. I went home, but I didn’t stay in bed because I didn’t feel sick.
Three days later, boy was I sick, with a temperature of 101,102,103…104 and 105! And it went on and on. On the 10th day they wanted to hospitalize me and I said, "What are you going to give me?" The doctor said, "I’m going to give you pain killers and tranquilizers." I said, "I’m not in pain, I’m dying of fever. I can die cheaper at home."
stayed home, and at the end of
two weeks I was sitting on the couch leaning forward thinking "Boy,
am I sick!" when I found myself in the dining room looking back at me
sitting on the couch, and I said, "Wow, is she sick! I don’t
want to go back." And the Voice again said to me, a very powerful,
loving voice (but it’s one you trust and really listen to) "This
is fine, you don’t have to go back, but this is death if you
choose to stay." It said, "You have 24 hours in which to have an
antibiotic or you will have no choice and will have to come back." I
said, "I don’t want to come back." (You see it from a different
perspective when you’re out there.) So they started flashing my
kids in front of me. The first one was 13. I said, "He’ll be
fine." The next one was 11. I said, "He’ll be fine." Next one
was 3 1/2. I said, "He’ll be fine." The last one was 18 months
and I said, "I have to go back." And then I was just instantly back
in my body.
The interesting thing is, when I was across the room and I looked down, I had a body&endash;it had the same clothes on as the one on the coach did. But I was up by the chandelier, which meant I had to be at least 2 feet off the floor. So, this time when my husband walked in the door I said, "OK, this time I have 24 hours to get an antibiotic". I was living in Bellevue, Washington. I said, "You call every doctor in Seattle and get me an antibiotic.
Now of course, I understand there’s no accidents, or coincidences. We called the same clinic we’d been calling for two weeks, and this old Italian doctor answers and says, "Oh my God, get her into the car and I’ll see her right now!" So he looked at the x-rays and said, "You’ve got to have an antibiotic right now." So my husband got the prescription. My temperature broke to 101 that night. But it took me two months to get a clear chest x-ray.
course, once you know
there’s no death, you have to stop and say "Whoa! What am I
doing here? Who in the hell am I?" And that’s where you really
stop and say, "OK…Jesus said it. He said, "The Kingdom of Heaven
is within; go within and you’ll know God." It’s all inside
of us. I had to wait two years before they started talking to me from
the other side.
The Share Guide: The second one though, were you also asleep?
Betty: It was daytime. Because this time I wasn’t floating horizontally, I was standing up. I was just in another room looking back at me sitting on the couch. And if somebody lit a match at that instance, I could have cared less. This is the thing you have to realize - you don’t care what happens to your body. It’s like an old coat that you no longer need, and it has no meaning whatsoever to you.
The Share Guide: Dr. Larry Dossy, who I interviewed, says that people often dream about their health and often they dream about self-diagnosis.
Oh absolutely, but I don’t
call it self-diagnosis. I think God gives it to us. I hear the Voice.
I mean the Voice is very accurate, very loud, but it’s not me
talking, I can tell you that. And I have heard the Voice many times.
They do talk to people. I know Science likes to keep it
medically-oriented, but I lecture in hospitals now. I teach healing
to people, and I can tell you Science and Spirituality are going to
merge. I’ve seen how far it’s come in the 33 years
I’ve been into it.
Betty: I agree. And dreams are
accurate. My book The Dream Book
is an international
Betty: Well, here’s what I explain in The Dream Book. Last night’s dreams cover yesterday and today. Tonight’s dreams cover today and tomorrow. They’re all symbolic. If you take them literally, you’re not going to think they mean anything. A car in a dream is always you. You always want to be at the wheel of a car and not in the back seat, not in the passenger seat, or you’re not in control of your life.
A house in a dream is always you. The bigger the building, the more potential you’ve got going. Each room is telling you something about yourself. In the kitchen, I’m working on myself. In the bathroom - shaving or showering - I’m cleaning up my act. Or it means I need to clean up my act. If you’re on the John, it’s saying, would you let go of your stuff! Water is always the emotion.
Anything flying, helicopter, UFO, airplane, is your creative energy. If the plane crashes then it’s saying, "Boy, you’ve just lost your energy." And you can see it because it’s covering where you are right now.
Everybody in the dream is you, unless the person has died, then you’re actually seeing that person. We’re going out of the body at night. We’re being taught and trained. In every dream you’re falling, it’s a bad landing, coming back in your Earth suit. If you jerk and you’re dozing off, it’s a bad takeoff. If you wake up in the middle night and you’re paralyzed and you can’t move, it’s because you’re not back in your Earth suit yet, you’re just starting to come through the crown of your head. Take yourself down, and then you can move. Think yourself out and ask for the highest teaching you can be granted. And they will give you a one-liner that is so powerful you will be able to bring it back and remember it.
A man in a dream is always talking about my strong, assertive part. A woman in a dream is always my creative part. A child is always my child part. If I dream my child is dying in real life then it means, guess what - I’ve forgotten to make time for my inner child.
really turns your
head around. You begin to see that we all have a guardian angel
standing over our right shoulder throughout our lives. We have a
minimum of three teachers who walk through life with us. God
doesn’t trust you here alone. As we meditate and get our energy
higher, we bring in more and more teachers. It’s just like first
grade, second grade, third grade…your perception about what life
is changes, the higher your energy goes. If you’re stuck in left
brain thinking, you can’t see the hand in front of your face. If
you bring in a right brain oriented person, they can look at the
problem and find it just like that - because the right brain
the imagination, is the bridge to God.
Betty: They’re too tired. They’re sleeping too heavily. If they nap they can catch the dream. They should sit on the side of the bed and say, "I will have a dream. I will remember the dream. I will wake up and write the dream down." Your mind is a computer, it will do whatever you tell it. So if you say that three times, real assertively, you’ll find that every night you’re gonna remembering your dreams.
The best teaching dreams happen between 3:00--5:00 am, and the one just upon awakening. You must write it down the minute you wake up or you’re going to lose it. The dreams early in the night are just clearing house dreams - like clearing out the garbage in the dream of the day, seeing what you’ve let go of.
are positive, but a
nightmare will scare you to death so you’ll remember it. Nice
dreams go in one ear and out the other. We think, "Isn’t that
lovely" and we don’t remember one thing. But if God terrifies
us, we’re going to look at it.
Betty: Sure. But the thing is - all forms of meditation open the five senses, bring in intuitive abilities, so there is no bad meditation. But if you meditate and you aren’t learning how to close down, you’re just going to open yourself to go up and down like a yo-yo, and set yourself up for panic attacks. We teach Meditation and Prayer which is Affirmation, Visualization. God knows what you want; you have to ask to get it. Otherwise God becomes your co-dependent. And of course God is Love in all religions. Whether people believe in God or not doesn’t matter.
The Share Guide: You know, some people, including myself and many of our readers, have been working on themselves for years, meditating and so forth. But we’re still searching for more guidance.
You’re intellectualizing on
this…you get that Intellect fussing with your Intuition. Are you
aware of that?
That’s what’s getting
in your way. Try our technique of meditation. One of the easiest ways
to meditate is make a 20 minute tape of your favorite songs by your
favorite singer. (I love Celine Dion, or Barbara Streisand, heart
singers.) Then you’re not going to mind sitting there for 20
minutes because you’re hearing your favorite songs. Usually ten
minutes is 3 songs. Have your hands touching for the first 10
minutes, palms up for the second 10 minutes. Turn one palm up for a
second and close your eyes and inhale deeply through your nose. Then
exhale through the nose, clear to the base of the spine. This time
when you inhale, feel the electricity going in your fingertips. When
you exhale, feel it out the fingertips into the energy field. Can you
Betty: That’s what you’re
meditating for - the electrical energy. Every cell in your
is an individual atom held together by electro-magnetic energy. It
brings the endorphines up, which stops you from having pain.
It’s healing, changing every cell in the body, plus you’re
awakening new brain cells. If you awaken new brain cells, you
don’t need the others that are lost. Incidentally
by meditating, you can
create other physical changes. I’m 66, but I have bones 127.9%
better than anyone my age. So it shows you that meditation does more,
and my energy is better than 20 year olds. Nobody thinks I’m
that age. They look at me and think, "Are you crazy? You can’t
be!" So you begin to see there’s no such thing as age; it’s
where our energy is that determines how old we are. When your energy
is high, you see things very quickly and very easily. Your intuition
gets stronger and stronger. By closing down at the end of the
meditation, means you close your hands in a fist and feel a balloon
of white light form around you. You could feel the electricity
Betty: Close your eyes for a second now. Feel your energy field. Now think of a time when you were depressed. Feel what it feels like. Now think of one of the happiest times in your life. Feel what it feels like. What happens when you’re depressed?
The Share Guide: You tend to slouch down and withdraw your energy.
Betty: You don’t even think of
it’s just automatically happening. That energy comes pushing
down heavily on you. When you think of the positive, it lightens
right up. All we changed was our thoughts. So it’s people’s
thoughts, words and actions that create their reality. This is all an
Yes. Edgar Cayce’s
Teachings are the same as mine. The White Brotherhood&endash;they
just put much more through me. Cayce read the Bible, but then he
tried to color it. But his stuff is right on if you can tangle
through the symbology of it. The Bible is written the same way, but
if you read it with the Dream Book, interpreting it,
you’ll see it talks about the Book of Revelations; the Seven
Seals are the Seven Chakras.
Yes. Yogananda is part of the
White Brotherhood. It’s all so simple. Everybody’s trying
to make it hard. Everybody wants to make money off of people. The
only three tools anybody needs are free! They are: 20 minutes of
meditation once a day, at least three hours of sleep&endash;the
dreams start coming through then&endash;and then Affirmation and
your own mind; heal yourself.
We’re all a mirror for other people to see themselves in.
Anything anybody is criticizing us for has nothing to do with us.
This way there’s no point in reacting or getting mad. Does that
make sense? It changes your life.
Betty: Absolutely, yes. I have tapes on it, but I teach it at every single lecture. At the end I teach the meditation and then I lead them all on a guided visualization.
The Share Guide: And do you work with visual aids, like mandalas or meditating on candles or something like that?
Betty: No. My Guide says don’t get hung up on dependency on anything.
The Share Guide: Don’t concentrate on the visuals, then. So when people are listening to music on a tape, they are mostly doing this with their eyes closed?
Betty: Yes, their eyes should
while they’re meditating. What you’re trying to do is shut
the mind up. The mind won’t turn off, it has to go to one point.
If you listen to the words of a singer, you’re staying with the
singer all the way through the 20 minutes. The mind is not there
jumping around, thinking "I should be doing this, I could be doing
that, I don’t want to sit here." All that stuff doesn’t
enter your thoughts because you’re tricking your mind, because
it loves the song. You
can see this with puberty. The
minute kids start coming into puberty, they’ll all reach for
their Walkman’s or headphones or something. It keeps the
feelings up. Kundalini comes up powerfully twice in our life: at 14
we call it puberty; at 49 we call it menopause. 49 is the greatest
transitional time of our lives. It takes us out. It’s like we no
longer have to take care of others; we can stop and take our gifts to
that highest point.
Betty: Of course. Medicine is fine, they come around. 96% of all illnesses are caused by thoughts(?) We get sick in the chakra where we hold the stress in. Second chakra, you’ll set up prostrate trouble, colitis, or female problems. That’s usually due to people not using their sexual energy, trying to turn the sexual energy off. Third chakra is the solar plexus, which is everybody’s fear/worry center. If you’re reacting in your third or fourth chakra&endash;fourth is empathizing with everybody, third is fear or worry--you want to get up to the Third Eye. If you’re finding yourself reacting, take a slow deep breath through the nose and exhale through the nose and kick that energy right up to the Third Eye and say, "Wow! how did they just nail me?" And look and see what it is.
running 5 or 6
lessons on ourselves in this lifetime. That’s where we get in
trouble doing the same dumb number over and over and over again.
That’s why I want to stop and see what it is. Fear of
abandonment is everybody’s number. But of course, you can’t
be abandoned unless you abandon yourself, because your teachers are
always standing there, loving you unconditionally. God loves you
unconditionally. But if I don’t love myself, I’m going to
block anybody else loving me. This is why Self-love, Self-Esteem is
so important, because we really can’t love anyone else if we
don’t love ourself.
Betty: Same thing.
The Share Guide: You think it’s the same thing?
I know it is.
Everybody has it, but most
people don’t look at it. They just aren’t dialing into that
frequency to look at it.
Everybody’s got it. Look at
kids the first 7 years of their lives. They can psyche you right out.
They’re going strictly by the right brain, which is the
God’s eye, the intuition, the imagination. Around second grade
or age 7 they start developing the use of reading, writing and
arithmetic, the left brain, and that’s where we start losing the
right brain. A lot of people are creative, so they stay with it
through different creative talents that they enjoy, but a lot of them
lose it right there at age 7. Ages 14-21 is all physical growth, and
21-28 is all emotional growth. 21-28 are the hardest 7 years, but
14-21 is no picnic.
Yes. Of course, you have to
understand that psychic ability is child’s play. I wouldn’t
waste 5 minutes on the psychic stuff. I had to walk through it
because I had to understand, it but I hated every minute of it.
Psychic things don’t make you a better person. You’re here
to be a better person. Most people get stuck in doing the readings,
and turn their gifts off and ruin themselves. I’m here to get
off the Earth plane, and I want to be the best me that I possibly can
be. Meditation is what helps me. That’s the spiritual journey.
You never stop growing. I’m a mystic…You want to keep going
to the mystical.
Oh absolutely. A mystic takes
self-responsibility for all their thought, words and actions. A
Mystic works hand in hand with God in order to change their lives, to
rid themselves of all fear, to help their fellow man in a much higher
They’re channels are only as good as the person behind it,
that they have coming through them. Everybody can get their own
answers. Why should you pay somebody else for it?
Of course we can. There’s a
saying when the student is ready, the master will come. They watch
your energy field. By meditating you are constantly increasing the
energy field. Teachers will lower their energy only to a certain
point; you must earn them. You want to keep going from second grade
teachings to third grade to fourth to fifth. I’ve been in it for
33 years, and I can never know it all. And I’ll tell you, I know
more than probably 99% of people out there. You should take what
feels right from me or any other teacher. Your gut will tell you
Right, you can’t do it
without preparation. You’re not going to get very high energy.
Your accuracy won’t be good. We’re just a pipe they channel
Yes, it takes at least 20
minutes to recharge your battery. That’s all you’re doing,
plugging into an electrical socket. It takes 10 minutes to bring it
up from the base of the spine to the Third Eye. Then it takes another
10. You turn your palms up at the end of 10 minutes, sitting in front
of God, getting this electrical charge. At the end of 20 minutes, boy
are you high! The more we meditate, the more we can see what we need
to change about ourselves. Change what you don’t want, keep what
you do, and don’t worry at all what anybody else
Note: Betty Bethards has
passed into the next life, but we are honored we had a chance to speak
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